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	<title>Comments on: Why CP80 Won&#8217;t Work</title>
	<link>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/</link>
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		<title>by: Selena Kitt &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pornography Awareness Week</title>
		<link>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-9473</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] (Like lobbying for the government sponsored CP80 Initiative to &#8220;protect&#8221; people from unintentional exposure to pornography? BTW, here&#8217;s a great argument why it won&#8217;t work. Oh and just for fun, here&#8217;s another one.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] (Like lobbying for the government sponsored CP80 Initiative to &#8220;protect&#8221; people from unintentional exposure to pornography? BTW, here&#8217;s a great argument why it won&#8217;t work. Oh and just for fun, here&#8217;s another one.) [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Esther</title>
		<link>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-5777</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 03:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-5777</guid>
					<description>Hey John.  Just finished reading the comments on this post and I'm curious.  Have you set up a website yet?  I may be showing my naivity, because to my shame, I have never heard of this, and I don't even know if it has been passed or dismissed or is still forthcoming.  I would love to do something like Michael Place suggested, but I would need to know more details. Would you point me to a website or anything that would help me to voice my opinion?  I would love to go check out the much spoken of website, but I can't because (laugh) my filter won't allow it on the basis that we have locked "unrated" sites.  :)  
Your thought for the moment:  What on earth would a man do with himself if something did not stand in his way?  HG Wells.
Seems quite applicable to the conversation. Just what that force ought to be is the question that is left.  
It doesn't seem so hopeless yet, that we ought to give up and let someone else solve the problems in our own homes.  But maybe I have hope in things others do not.  
Thanks for the conversation, it was enlightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John.  Just finished reading the comments on this post and I&#8217;m curious.  Have you set up a website yet?  I may be showing my naivity, because to my shame, I have never heard of this, and I don&#8217;t even know if it has been passed or dismissed or is still forthcoming.  I would love to do something like Michael Place suggested, but I would need to know more details. Would you point me to a website or anything that would help me to voice my opinion?  I would love to go check out the much spoken of website, but I can&#8217;t because (laugh) my filter won&#8217;t allow it on the basis that we have locked &#8220;unrated&#8221; sites.  :)<br />
Your thought for the moment:  What on earth would a man do with himself if something did not stand in his way?  HG Wells.<br />
Seems quite applicable to the conversation. Just what that force ought to be is the question that is left.<br />
It doesn&#8217;t seem so hopeless yet, that we ought to give up and let someone else solve the problems in our own homes.  But maybe I have hope in things others do not.<br />
Thanks for the conversation, it was enlightening.
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		<title>by: Michael Place</title>
		<link>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2494</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2494</guid>
					<description>John,

Could you contact me via email to discuss such a site? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Could you contact me via email to discuss such a site? Thanks.
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		<title>by: John David Anderson</title>
		<link>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2487</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2487</guid>
					<description>Thanks for the info, Michael. I'll craft that email later tonight.

I've been thinking of registering a domain and putting up some FAQs that talk about the problems with CP80. I think too many people are jumping on the bandwagon without understanding the implications of the measure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info, Michael. I&#8217;ll craft that email later tonight.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking of registering a domain and putting up some FAQs that talk about the problems with CP80. I think too many people are jumping on the bandwagon without understanding the implications of the measure.
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		<title>by: Michael Place</title>
		<link>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2486</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 00:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2486</guid>
					<description>John,

A strong and well reasoned article. I've written a letter to Rep. Brad Daw, who sponsored HCR 3 and I'd encourage others to do the same. 

Rep. Daw can be reached at bdaw@utah.gov. 

It may be too late to stop CP80 from embarrassing Utah's technical community, but at least we can work together to make our objections public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>A strong and well reasoned article. I&#8217;ve written a letter to Rep. Brad Daw, who sponsored HCR 3 and I&#8217;d encourage others to do the same. </p>
<p>Rep. Daw can be reached at <a href="mailto:bdaw@utah.gov.">bdaw@utah.gov.</a> </p>
<p>It may be too late to stop CP80 from embarrassing Utah&#8217;s technical community, but at least we can work together to make our objections public.
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		<title>by: perry stout</title>
		<link>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2240</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2240</guid>
					<description>This guy is smarter than the both of you put together.

http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/003738.shtml

But basically he has arrived at a similar CP80 deal from a differnet end.


Oh ya be sure to read the ACLU's take on this issue it its linked on the page. but I will post it also:

http://www.aclu.org/privacy/speech/15145pub20020317.html

David I think you will read that the ACLU does want to force porn on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is smarter than the both of you put together.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/003738.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/003738.shtml</a></p>
<p>But basically he has arrived at a similar CP80 deal from a differnet end.</p>
<p>Oh ya be sure to read the ACLU&#8217;s take on this issue it its linked on the page. but I will post it also:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aclu.org/privacy/speech/15145pub20020317.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.aclu.org/privacy/speech/15145pub20020317.html</a></p>
<p>David I think you will read that the ACLU does want to force porn on you.
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		<title>by: John David Anderson</title>
		<link>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2226</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2226</guid>
					<description>Meh.

Given that you've completely dodged a very specific and pointed question, I guess I'm done. As fun as it might be to go the rounds - emphasis on circular - I'm not really finding out anything new.

Best of luck with your fight against internet porn. I'll be standing right next to you, working on a different measure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh.</p>
<p>Given that you&#8217;ve completely dodged a very specific and pointed question, I guess I&#8217;m done. As fun as it might be to go the rounds - emphasis on circular - I&#8217;m not really finding out anything new.</p>
<p>Best of luck with your fight against internet porn. I&#8217;ll be standing right next to you, working on a different measure.
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		<title>by: Joshua Simpson</title>
		<link>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2224</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2224</guid>
					<description>Also, that ksmias compares kids who were raped, killed, and molested to kids who've screwed up, well, there you go.  Good job ksmias.  You're a fine parent.  

[Borat voice] Nooooot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, that ksmias compares kids who were raped, killed, and molested to kids who&#8217;ve screwed up, well, there you go.  Good job ksmias.  You&#8217;re a fine parent.  </p>
<p>[Borat voice] Nooooot!
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		<title>by: Joshua Simpson</title>
		<link>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2223</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2223</guid>
					<description>Did ksmias REALLY say "N word please" ?

What is this, the CP80 version of the ghetto?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did ksmias REALLY say &#8220;N word please&#8221; ?</p>
<p>What is this, the CP80 version of the ghetto?
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		<title>by: ksmias</title>
		<link>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2114</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://smallplates.johndavidanderson.net/2007/03/20/why-cp80-wont-work/#comment-2114</guid>
					<description>familiar territory 

And all this time I thought you didn't have a solution, but in fact you did.  Here it is are you ready.  Unplug your internet cable. Why even face the problem, just pretend it doesn’t exist at all.  oh ya and loving parents.  I am being a bit of a jerk I know, but your suggestion is not fair, but it is your opinion, what I can't understand is how you would back that ridiculous naive notion and have such a hard time with a little government regulation that exists everywhere else in all aspects of life. Your just a hard core libertarian.  I guess the question you should ask your self is is it more imopotant to protect children from porn or is the  absoulte unrestricted free internet more important?

John I think you are speaking from ignorance to the issue again... most parents are loving, there have been plenty of loving parents who had children who raped others, killed others, molested others chidren who fell away.  Are you saying every kid who ever really screwed up din't have loving parent? Just answer this, we have porn regulation for all other types of media except the internet, why not the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>familiar territory </p>
<p>And all this time I thought you didn&#8217;t have a solution, but in fact you did.  Here it is are you ready.  Unplug your internet cable. Why even face the problem, just pretend it doesn’t exist at all.  oh ya and loving parents.  I am being a bit of a jerk I know, but your suggestion is not fair, but it is your opinion, what I can&#8217;t understand is how you would back that ridiculous naive notion and have such a hard time with a little government regulation that exists everywhere else in all aspects of life. Your just a hard core libertarian.  I guess the question you should ask your self is is it more imopotant to protect children from porn or is the  absoulte unrestricted free internet more important?</p>
<p>John I think you are speaking from ignorance to the issue again&#8230; most parents are loving, there have been plenty of loving parents who had children who raped others, killed others, molested others chidren who fell away.  Are you saying every kid who ever really screwed up din&#8217;t have loving parent? Just answer this, we have porn regulation for all other types of media except the internet, why not the internet.
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